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Let me mention that I like the rules for unwrapping. I am sure it was not an easy compromise, but I think it is an elegant solution to the problems you point out with prior approaches, and will make macros significantly less painful to write. Just a couple of uncertainties: - Just to confirm: (car (syntax (1 2))) --> an error. - Could one write (define-syntax or (lambda (x) (syntax-case x () [(_) #f] ... instead of (syntax #f)? The definition of syntax objects seems to allow it. - Related, is (quote (1 2 3)) a valid output of a transformer, as opposed to (syntax (1 2 3)). Again, the spec appears to allow it. Regards Andre